VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

XaGnard · Dec 15, 2023

tofhdns said:
It seems that “home” is the main character in the movie “Home Alone.”
Or are all the people who visit or live in that home the main characters?

This is the first time I've seen someone who interprets the title as you do.

And the Dylan/Christine story has absolutely no impact on Sophia's corruption process.
The Dylan/Amy story also has no effect on Sophia's corruption process.
This is like the Dylan/Amber story also having no effect on Sophia's corruption process.

Was Sophia corrupted during the Dylan/Emma event?

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Not at all. Sofia was a normal mom and maybe she felt liberated.

So what about Aiden?

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Sophia is corrupt.

The only time Dylan and Ellie have any influence on Sofia's corruption process is when they are with Sofia.

Therefore, your claim that Dylan's single story has a significant impact on Sophia's corruption process is refuted by this game.

Fans of this developer, who are not fans of this game, always deny reality and talk about the future.
(To be precise, they copy this developer's words verbatim.)

But their words were always refuted by this game.

It was the same in the past, it is the same now, and it will be the same in the future.

I say again, Dylan already got everything he could from Sofia during the club event. Until now
The same goes for Dylan/Christine or Dylan/Amy.

It does not metastasize. It has been that way so far and it will be that way in the future.

It is just another name for delay.

Please tell me how you know what L&P has planned for the rest of the game. The storyline between Dylan and Ellie in particular, at least so far, runs through the entire game. There was the fight in the car, the viagra event (whose impact on Sophia is undeniable), and Sophia has already overheard them (laptop event), .... It's entirely possible, and I think even likely, that this update will somehow have repercussions for Sophia, in an later update. Maybe there are more voyeur events, because we already know that Dylan und also Sophia have path like to watch (at least in some paths). I do not know, but you also do not know, so please don't play the know-it-all here.

One more thing, I don't think much of L&P and have already said so here. Especially his bad project management skills are a great threat if one hopes to see this game finished at some point.But what I find really disturbing is when someone who badmouths the game, such as yourself for part 2, thinks he's more of a fan than me, who enjoyed the content of both part 1 and part 2 for the most part.Do you realize how arrogant that is? The game is what L&P creates (including part 2) and not what you think it should be.

hzjujk · Dec 15, 2023

tofhdns said:
It seems that “home” is the main character in the movie “Home Alone.”
Or are all the people who visit or live in that home the main characters?

This is the first time I've seen someone who interprets the title as you do.

And the Dylan/Christine story has absolutely no impact on Sophia's corruption process.
The Dylan/Amy story also has no effect on Sophia's corruption process.
This is like the Dylan/Amber story also having no effect on Sophia's corruption process.

Was Sophia corrupted during the Dylan/Emma event?

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Not at all. Sofia was a normal mom and maybe she felt liberated.

So what about Aiden?

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Sophia is corrupt.

The only time Dylan and Ellie have any influence on Sofia's corruption process is when they are with Sofia.

Therefore, your claim that Dylan's single story has a significant impact on Sophia's corruption process is refuted by this game.

Fans of this developer, who are not fans of this game, always deny reality and talk about the future.
(To be precise, they copy this developer's words verbatim.)

But their words were always refuted by this game.

It was the same in the past, it is the same now, and it will be the same in the future.

I say again, Dylan already got everything he could from Sofia during the club event. Until now
The same goes for Dylan/Christine or Dylan/Amy.

It does not metastasize. It has been that way so far and it will be that way in the future.

It is just another name for delay.

Nice that you mentioned Dylan/Emma. In my opinion, this path would have been exactly what you are so vehemently calling for. Another path of corruption for Sophia.
I'm pretty sure there would have been sexual interactions between Emma and Sophia at some point. And that would have been all the more corrupt and perverted because Emma is Dylan's girlfriend at this point and Sophia knows that and even set them up.
But for this event to work, you have to build it up slowly. And yes, this means that the player first has to "torture" themselves for a long time through a seemingly irrelevant route (because no corruption points for Sophia). And it means that there are events in which Sophia is not involved.
But such twists and turns make a story interesting and therefore seemingly inconsequential events can be important to you later on.
But anyway, I know I can't convince you, I just want to make it clear why I see it differently and why I think the "delays" you complain about are completely exaggerated.
I'll say it again, this whole discussion about the slow build-up of the story and seemingly superfluous paths completely misses the main problem of the game.

hzjujk · Dec 15, 2023

tofhdns said:
yes. This game isn't the only one and it's not worth the wait.

Like you said, all you have to do is enjoy other games and check for updates every now and then. That's it.

And if you're going to disparage people on this forum and call them pirates, tell the developer of this game to shut this forum down.

But I'm sure this developer won't do that. you also

So don't try to make people feel guilty by saying unnecessary things.

Now, as for the "unnecessary things" you should avoid saying, that's a question of point of view. To put it politely.

Supernova29 · Dec 15, 2023

XaGnard said:
Please tell me how you know what L&P has planned for the rest of the game. The storyline between Dylan and Ellie in particular, at least so far, runs through the entire game. There was the fight in the car, the viagra event (whose impact on Sophia is undeniable), and Sophia has already overheard them (laptop event), .... It's entirely possible, and I think even likely, that this update will somehow have repercussions for Sophia, in an later update. Maybe there are more voyeur events, because we already know that Dylan und also Sophia have path like to watch (at least in some paths). I do not know, but you also do not know, so please don't play the know-it-all here.

One more thing, I don't think much of L&P and have already said so here. Especially his bad project management skills are a great threat if one hopes to see this game finished at some point.But what I find really disturbing is when someone who badmouths the game, such as yourself for part 2, thinks he's more of a fan than me, who enjoyed the content of both part 1 and part 2 for the most part.Do you realize how arrogant that is? The game is what L&P creates (including part 2) and not what you think it should be.

This game suck dik..waste of time until pd14. No sex content. LP is milking money from perverts who has more incest fantasies rather than normal cheating wives. 3 hours waste of time to forward dialogue without any sex scene. Rest you can be a platinum member defending the creation and jerk on the boobshow and handjob of a mom to their own kids and others kids who are even younger than her own son and daughter. 3rd class game.

tofhdns · Dec 15, 2023

XaGnard said:
Please tell me how you know what L&P has planned for the rest of the game. The storyline between Dylan and Ellie in particular, at least so far, runs through the entire game. There was the fight in the car, the viagra event (whose impact on Sophia is undeniable), and Sophia has already overheard them (laptop event), .... It's entirely possible, and I think even likely, that this update will somehow have repercussions for Sophia, in an later update. Maybe there are more voyeur events, because we already know that Dylan und also Sophia have path like to watch (at least in some paths). I do not know, but you also do not know, so please don't play the know-it-all here.

One more thing, I don't think much of L&P and have already said so here. Especially his bad project management skills are a great threat if one hopes to see this game finished at some point.But what I find really disturbing is when someone who badmouths the game, such as yourself for part 2, thinks he's more of a fan than me, who enjoyed the content of both part 1 and part 2 for the most part.Do you realize how arrogant that is? The game is what L&P creates (including part 2) and not what you think it should be.

Shall we try them one by one?

Explain how Sophia was corrupted by the fight in the car and the Viagra incident.

XaGnard · Dec 15, 2023

DarkShadow29 said:
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This game suck dik..waste of time until pd14. No sex content. LP is milking money from perverts who has more incest fantasies rather than normal cheating wives. 3 hours waste of time to forward dialogue without any sex scene. Rest you can be a platinum member defending the creation and jerk on the boobshow and handjob of a mom to their own kids and others kids who are even younger than her own son and daughter. 3rd class game.

So, your argument for the legendary fight is kink shaming?

I thought that was not allowed here.

tofhdns · Dec 15, 2023

hzjujk said:
Nice that you mentioned Dylan/Emma. In my opinion, this path would have been exactly what you are so vehemently calling for. Another path of corruption for Sophia.
I'm pretty sure there would have been sexual interactions between Emma and Sophia at some point. And that would have been all the more corrupt and perverted because Emma is Dylan's girlfriend at this point and Sophia knows that and even set them up.
But for this event to work, you have to build it up slowly. And yes, this means that the player first has to "torture" themselves for a long time through a seemingly irrelevant route (because no corruption points for Sophia). And it means that there are events in which Sophia is not involved.
But such twists and turns make a story interesting and therefore seemingly inconsequential events can be important to you later on.
But anyway, I know I can't convince you, I just want to make it clear why I see it differently and why I think the "delays" you complain about are completely exaggerated.
I'll say it again, this whole discussion about the slow build-up of the story and seemingly superfluous paths completely misses the main problem of the game.

By Sophia/Emma it had already started working and Dylan wasn't there.

Regarding the Dylan/Emma event, I provided the text to this forum and if you read it and still think that, then you have a problem interpreting the text.

And when do you mean “later”?
100 years later?

I think in 100 years Sofia will forgive Neil and have sex with him.
how is it?

I said that it had certainly never happened in the past and that it had never happened in the present.
And I said, like you, you guys always talk about the future, and the future you guys talk about is always wrong.

Galaktur · Dec 15, 2023

hzjujk said:
Why not? I'm not waiting for it, I'll take it with me when there's something new. This statement suggests that this game is the only game available and that it should have some significance for life and well-being. But that is not the case.
Oh, and about the money. I think you are a pirate, you couldn't care less about the money L&P makes.

People like you make me laugh! Firstly, if you could think, you would understand why game developers allow you to download their games for free on this resource. But you obviously don't understand the banal things. Most game developers illegally use other people's resources in their games and do not pay for licenses and do not respect copyrights. Secondly, it is a banal free advertising of their games. Thirdly, On such large resources, they learn and receive information on their game and on the games of their competitors. Fourth, I pay for the finished product. Why should I wait for years for the completion of a job that in most cases is not executed. Except when I see that there are a lot of interesting things in the project. For the porn game category, where for many years, Sofia has only jerked off a dick, this is squalor for suckers. It is especially funny to read a person who sits on this resource and tries to pretend to be the right one)))) It's just called HYPOCRISY!

XaGnard · Dec 15, 2023

tofhdns said:
Shall we try them one by one?

Explain how Sophia was corrupted by the fight in the car and the Viagra incident.

Well, at least in my playthrough, the event led to Sophia agreeing to serve as Dylan's wank material. I think you can see that as a first step towards her jerking him off in the last update.

tofhdns · Dec 15, 2023

hzjujk said:
Now, as for the "unnecessary things" you should avoid saying, that's a question of point of view. To put it politely.

The problem with that perspective arises because:
Because you call the people here pirates or rats and live with them, and I think this forum is a "promotion ground" for the developer who created or were involved in creating.

So if you want to shut it down, do it. You know how.
But I say again, I know you or this developer won't do that.

That's why I say "unnecessary things."

Supernova29 · Dec 15, 2023

XaGnard said:
So, your argument for the legendary fight is kink shaming? I thought that was not allowed here.

lol this game promotes child pornography and teenage sexuality that is banned all over the world until now and the upcoming update included.
LP creation is pathetic. I would have appreciated if this would have been a normal cheating housewives game where sophia have sex with someone her own age or above. You can defend it as much as you want but that's the fact. this game is more like an Epstien creativity.

dan_roger69 · Dec 15, 2023

rAmSiMaL said:
16/12: 100 100 35 0 0 90
19/12: 100 100 50 0 0 100
20/12: 100 100 65 0 0 100
21/12: 100 100 75 0 0 100
22/12: 100 100 90 0 0 100
23/12: 100 100 100 0 0 100
28/12: 100 100 100 15 0 100
29/12: 100 100 100 25 0 100
30/12: 100 100 100 35 0 100
03/01: 100 100 100 50 0 100
04/01: 100 100 100 65 0 100
05/01: 100 100 100 75 0 100
06/01: 100 100 100 90 0 100
09/01: 100 100 100 100 0 100
10/01: 100 100 100 100 30 100
11/01: 100 100 100 100 70 100
12/01: 100 100 100 100 90 100
13/01: 100 100 100 100 100 100

14/01 - if no additional holidays taken…

Don't worry L&P is going to Fuck Up:

tofhdns · Dec 15, 2023

XaGnard said:
Well, at least in my playthrough, the event led to Sophia agreeing to serve as Dylan's wank material. I think you can see that as a first step towards her jerking him off in the last update.

Your comment is as stupid as the idiots who say that just a son looking at his mother's breasts is incest.
(I brought up the legalese for this and hope this debate doesn't happen again)

Dylan's Viagra was causing him physical problems and he couldn't do anything about it.
So Sophia had no choice but to help him.

And Sophia was clearly furious.
Is this corruption?

And why didn't you tell me about the fight in the car? Explain this too!
You said that this also corrupted Sophia.

And sometimes, don't laugh while talking.
I "kindly" let you know that sometimes it can be evidence of a state of mind in which you yourself are not sure of what you are saying.

Galaktur · Dec 15, 2023

Steam prohibits the content of any pedophilia, including school children, slavery and incest...And now everyone is guessing that there is no place for Sofia to have sex with her son or daughter. There will be no content about school or any school events. Enough content will be cut from the game.

hzjujk · Dec 15, 2023

Galaktur said:
People like you make me laugh! Firstly, if you could think, you would understand why game developers allow you to download their games for free on this resource. But you obviously don't understand the banal things. Most game developers illegally use other people's resources in their games and do not pay for licenses and do not respect copyrights. Secondly, it is a banal free advertising of their games. Thirdly, On such large resources, they learn and receive information on their game and on the games of their competitors. Fourth, I pay for the finished product. Why should I wait for years for the completion of a job that in most cases is not executed. Except when I see that there are a lot of interesting things in the project. For the porn game category, where for many years, Sofia has only jerked off a dick, this is squalor for suckers. It is especially funny to read a person who sits on this resource and tries to pretend to be the right one)))) It's just called HYPOCRISY!

Smile and yawn. I explained in my post how I feel about this - it's completely out of my hands.

Galaktur · Dec 15, 2023

hzjujk said:
Smile and yawn. I explained in my post how I feel about this - it's completely out of my hands.

You can only fantasize in vain, denying reality)))

Galaktur · Dec 15, 2023

tofhdns said:
yes. This game isn't the only one and it's not worth the wait.

Like you said, all you have to do is enjoy other games and check for updates every now and then. That's it.

And if you're going to disparage people on this forum and call them pirates, tell the developer of this game to shut this forum down.

But I'm sure this developer won't do that. you also

So don't try to make people feel guilty by saying unnecessary things.

It's hard for fans to admit that the developer bred them like suckers))) They understand this, but they don't want to admit it, so they fantasize about a mythical future)))

tofhdns · Dec 15, 2023

Galaktur said:
Steam prohibits the content of any pedophilia, including school children, slavery and incest...And now everyone is guessing that there is no place for Sofia to have sex with her son or daughter. There will be no content about school or any school events. Enough content will be cut from the game.

Oh, that's right.

If this game goes to Steam, Sophia will have to be a landlady, not a mom.

Someone who insists that the son should be the main character because this game is "A Wife And Mother" might cry.

tofhdns · Dec 15, 2023

Galaktur said:
It's hard for fans to admit that the developer bred them like suckers))) They understand this, but they don't want to admit it, so they fantasize about a mythical future)))

yes. The reason they are always wrong is because they are too religious.

palmtrees89 · Dec 15, 2023

rAmSiMaL said:
16/12: 100 100 35 0 0 90
19/12: 100 100 50 0 0 100
20/12: 100 100 65 0 0 100
21/12: 100 100 75 0 0 100
22/12: 100 100 90 0 0 100
23/12: 100 100 100 0 0 100
28/12: 100 100 100 15 0 100
29/12: 100 100 100 25 0 100
30/12: 100 100 100 35 0 100
03/01: 100 100 100 50 0 100
04/01: 100 100 100 65 0 100
05/01: 100 100 100 75 0 100
06/01: 100 100 100 90 0 100
09/01: 100 100 100 100 0 100
10/01: 100 100 100 100 30 100
11/01: 100 100 100 100 70 100
12/01: 100 100 100 100 90 100
13/01: 100 100 100 100 100 100

14/01 - if no additional holidays taken…

Still having a hard time believing that animations will be done in 2 days. Also, if what you said is true and animation progress is connected to CS+RS in a sense that he can only progress animations when the scenes are created to that point, does that mean the update is ending on an animation? I mean, considering your theory and seeing how animations are moving much faster now, that should theoretically be the case, no?

But I highly doubt it, and so my theory is that L&P spends way more time on animation work now that he's done with scene creation is all. Playing catch-up, basically. Previous updates have shown that animation progress hasn't really much to do with CS+RS progress, atleast not in the way your (and others) theory would explain it.

As for the Programming&Translation part, I'd think it'll take longer than 8 days as this update has 700+ renders, and back in 2021 when he'd still release 1/3rd PD's with 700-900 renders, P&T would take him like 2-3 weeks if I remember correctly. Anyway, it's all speculation in the end as nobody really knows what's going on behind closed curtains, but I'd say you're not THAT far off unless he's vanishing for Christmas / New Years holidays, which is very possible.

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