Ore dake Level Up na Ken Season 2: Arise from the Shadow Episode 6 Discussion

Avicebrons said:
@Confused_100 High or higher? Since those are two different things. I think it's probably too early to tell if sequel inflation was/is a big enough factor to attribute to the higher rating. For people who liked S1, S2 brought generally more of the same, probably better even, so a higher rating would most likely be expected. 8.84 seems a bit excessively high in my opinion, I would've wagered it'd land at 8.6 at the highest maybe. And that's why I think with sequel inflation in mind, the ratings can be hard to judge at face value. That was my point. But at this moment at least, I probably wouldn't have enough to attribute sequel inflation as a big enough factor for the high/higher rating. But it's always something you should keep in mind. We'll see more when the ratings have actually settled, so maybe a month or two after the final episode.

But once again, when you say "so sequel inflation isn't the reason why this season has a high rating?", you are for the hundredth time not understanding that sequel inflation has and always will be a factor. There is never one reason why something has high rating. There are always a multitude of different reasons. If you were to ask the proper question which would be if sequel inflation was the biggest or one of the biggest reason. Then I would most likely say no if you're asking about it being high rating, and maybe, but most likely no (with some caveat as explained above) if you asked about it being higher rating.

But by admitting you aren't being obtuse, when we can just look back and see the countless of times you've been obtuse by just completely misunderstanding my point and forcing me to repeat it ad nauseum, you yourself are willing to judge others but not yourself. It's things like this that makes me call you a hypocrite.

Then why even latch onto the sexist comment as some sort of point? That makes absolutely zero sense.

You one billion percent do NOT judge fairly. If you did, you wouldn't have made an assumption about me before actually questioning me. The fact that you can't even see this is baffling to me. You make assumptions left and right and then have the gall to say you judge fairly while I apparently don't.

The first thing we agree on. You threw good faith from the table when you literally in your very first reply to me just made wild assumptions without even attempting to understand why I was agreeing with the person. Good faith would've been to ask me to elaborate, provide my own justifications and go more in-depth on why/what I agreed with. You literally immediately just called me a "pure hater". So if you're sad about good faith being off the table, know that it was by your own hand.

keirashii said:
@Confused_100 smh. a girl cant have gay sex headcanons now.

Azuchi said:
Anyone knows what the limit on Jinwoos summons were in this part of the arc? It's not unlimited as far as the novels go but it feels like he summoned way too many than he should be able to. Was it around 40 or so during this arc?

So the quick answer is that you agree it isn’t.

Why would I judge myself on acting like you from the beginning? Lol. Did you not get my point there?

I didn’t latch onto it… I used it only once, you are the one who kept bringing it up lol. Bruh…

I wouldn’t say the good faith was thrown out because of me, but because of your weird interactions here.

Avicebrons said:
@Confused_100 If you want to be reductive, then sure.

Because you're unable to even remotely accept anything you're doing wrong, while being happy to judge others for the exact same things.

You initially brought it up. Not me. When by your own admission, it doesn't even seem like you should've brought it up to begin with. And then I replied to that. And then you replied to my reply, and it continued. But the genesis, was you. You latch onto it when you didn't need to.

Ahh yes. I forgot. I was the one who replied to you. I was the one who made assumptions about you without even interacting with you beforehand. How could I forget. You can't be serious with this lol. You replied to me and you were the one who immediately just made wild assumptions and called me a "pure hater" without even so much as interacting with me. That alone throws good faith out the window. So again, you are the genesis here. You are the one with weird interactions because you had a meltdown as soon as you saw something that could possibly be perceived as negative opinions about SL.

Had you only just taken a step back, take a deep breath, and then ask the people you were replying to to elaborate or justify their position. Then you could've had a clear conscience about going into it with good faith. Who knows, you might've even convinced people with your points. But when you come in hot-headed and just shut down anything and everything negative without even understanding their position, good faith is off the table and you're essentially guaranteeing they will never accept your opinion on the show.

Again you want me to judge myself on me intentionally using your own tactics against you? Bruh, I know it’s bad, I am using it against you so that you understand that it’s bad also lol.

I brought it up once, and you kept bringing it up lol.

I brought it up like you brought up “usual unhinged SL fan”, like you tried to make assumptions and trying to generalise a person to a fanbase…

You aren’t seeing the main point here and it is showing with your last 2 paragraphs. And please respond less so that I don’t lose interest in reading. I tried to lessen it last time but you keep increasing it lol.

Avicebrons said:
@Confused_100 Translation: "I'm a hypocrite and don't want to admit I'm a hypocrite so I'm pretending I'm some master tactician instead."

You brought it up, I answered, you answered to my answer, and it continued. Meaning there, you are the genesis.

Which I've already said had a keyword "unhinged", meaning if you're not unhinged you're not targeted. And as I also stated, it was in jest, have you seriously never seen that joke ever before? "Most sane Pokémon fan" and stuff in that vein? It's a very common saying online.

Nor are you. I agreed with a person, called another person who by all means none should defend unhinged in jest, and then finally talked about a rating phenomenon. An agreement shouldn't be controversial and shouldn't warrant the meltdown you had. At the very least not until you heard why I agreed, then if you disagreed with that, fair enough. Calling said person unhinged when you read what he said should be understandable. If you had a problem with it seeming like I said "all fans are like this", then fair enough call out that and I would've immediately said it wasn't like that and it was in jest and we would've moved on. And finally I talked about the rating phenomenon of sequel inflation, which is a commonly discussed topic and it wasn't even used to criticize the show or anything of the sort. None of what I said should've warranted your response. Yet you like to pretend like you aren't the one who threw good faith out the window. Get a grip. How hard is it to accept that maybe you came in more hot-headed than you should've?

How do I saying it’s bad means I am being “hypocritical”? Lol. That makes zero sense. The ironic thing you are the one not admitting to it and acting everything you said was either satire or not what I thought…

Again I talked about it 1 time. You are the one who kept using it.

You judged one person and ignored the other just because they share your tastes lol

You also assumed they weren’t being funny like you were doing. Weird this has a word to describe it and you are using it frequently now… Next

I agree it wasn’t criticism. It was trying to undermine something to seem like it’s weak in comparison to justify your own opinion… You were overplaying the sequel inflation and now you admitted it wasn’t that big of a factor to begin with. So atleast you did one good thing out of this. Now again try to lessen the words you are writing.

Bro, I got what I wanted from this conversation already. Now it’s just you know, trying to see if you will get the point or not, because maybe just maybe there’s hope here.

Avicebrons said:
@Confused_100 Because you will never admit fault of your own, only fault of others. I.e a hypocrite.

And again, by bringing it up when by your own admission you didn't really need to, you made me respond to it. Which made you respond to my response, and the cycle continued. There is no "I brought it up once", since by bringing it up to begin with you are starting a cycle of back and forth. You are the cause.

Nope, I judged the person who said unhinged stuff. The other didn't, at least from what I could see.

Then we were being funny towards each other I suppose. Next.

Nope. Never once overplayed sequel inflation. I talked about its existence and influence. And this was in direct response to someone else who made the topic relevant to begin with. I didn't just bring it up out of the blue. It's your own hot-headed blood boiling brain that needs to white knight Solo Leveling that made you immediately jump to the conclusion that "OH MY GOD HE'S SAYING THE RATINGS ARE POSSIBLY A BIT HIGHER THAN THEY NORMALLY WOULD BE, BLASPHEMY, I MUST STRIKE HIM DOWN AT ONCE". Like calm down. Sequel inflation affects shows I love as well.

And I've given up hope that you'll get my point. You never will. Or rather, you simply refuse to even attempt. Because doing so might fracture your ego and make you reconsider how you approach things. That's why all your replies have been overwhelming amount of deflect deflect deflect and maybe a bit of projection for good measure. It would've been so easy to just say "You know what, I was a bit hot-headed, my bad. However I do strongly disagree with you on these things, so elaborate/justify them please". But you simply can't. And if it's all me now, then I can confidently leave this conversation knowing I was right. So thank you, and good riddance.

I did say it’s bad… Can you not read? Lol but alright whatever you say.

Cool so like the unhinged SL fan comment. The cycle continues because you are the cause lol.

The other didn’t… Either you really are being obtuse or you have an agenda. Which is it? Like cmon, tell me their response to them from beginning wasnot bad lol. Bro, you aren’t helping your case of “hypocrisy” here…

I never said that SL rating wasnot higher to what it will end up to… I made fun of your overplaying “sequel inflation” scheme. Which you literally agreed on. I am the one who even said it’s natural that the scores would be high now due to majority not rating it yet. But that doesn’t mean the ones rating now are majorly stans.

Please give up, because it seems you don’t see the main point and why I got what I wanted already lol

DeonX said:
@Zprotu That's good to know coz Jinwoo has been dominating this season from the first episode. I hope the highly acclaimed Jeju Island arc will pose a challenge for him or at least have some stakes.

DeonX said:
@Unknown_Guy100 didn't expect him to straight up become Saitama lmao