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SSL443 said: I don't think anyone cares about the distinction. Whatever floats your boat, I guess... |
genesic123 said: It has good well developed characters. Uuuuuuhhhhhhhh........ |
| I think the only thing I liked about this episode was the extremely short scene of Raphtalia dodging the snake tail by doing the matrix dodge. While I don't dislike Filo, I can't take anything serious with her in her chicken form. Everything just becomes comical and let me say, it's not amusing. Last weeks race, this episodes fight, compared to the tone with Raphtalia's fight with the two headed dog and everything before Filo, it has become rather stale. Sad thing is that I've read a good amount of the manga a long time ago so this change was expected but I can't help but be bothered by this. I guess it might be because of the slideshows rushing certain aspects making the change feel thrown in my face rather than me slowly adapting to the change. |
| this show should be called Naofumi-sama cuz characters in this show cant form sentences without his name being inserted somewhere |
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| I like how the arguments of this show have gone from the romanticism of slavery, to bad/lazy writing, and finally to arguing over the semantics of what makes a show a harem or not. |
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papsoshea said: The first search result, Wikipedia: "Harem is a kind of story in Japanese anime and manga where a male character is surrounded by many female characters. Suzuka, Love Hina, Ai Yori Aoshi, Rosario + Vampire and Sekirei are just a few examples. Most of the time the females are romantically interested in the main character. The term "harem" is generally not used by itself, but as an adjective to the genreโsuch as harem anime or harem manga. The term orginates from the arabic word "hareem" which literally means women and was also used to refer to one man many women like a sultan hareem." This passage came from simple.wikipedia.net whereas the passage I cited came from en.wikipedia.net. And the two entries aren't totally compatible. So which passage in Wikipedia is more correct? All you have proven is that there is a lack of consensus in what a harem primarily means. Here is also from the search result you listed: "Because romance is rarely the main focus of an entire series,[a] a harem structure is ambiguous. The most distinguishable trait is the group of polyamorous females or males who accompany the protagonist and, in some instances, cohabitate with the protagonist. While intimacy is just about customary, it is never necessary. When it is present, it is always a minimum of three supporting characters who express sexual orientation or the romantic orientation interest in the protagonist." That passage also says that the harem structure is ambiguous, which means that it's open to more than one interpretation. This likely also explains why your interpretation of what a harem is is considered informal according to the Merriam-Webster. And you should really, re-read the animeplanet's definition, there are keywords that probably went over your head. I believe it is you that need to reread Animeplanet's definition considering that Filo's attraction to Naofumi is that of familial love, not a romantic one... A harem has always been a male MC surrounded by girls. In your opinion considering that the structure of a harem is ambiguous based on the Wikipedia passage you cited yourself. And your example, how do I know if what you say about it is true or not? Can't say so without seeing it for myself. Trust Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer fans to have their own definitions of a harem. For all I know, you could be talking out of your ass, like you're doing here. Rakudai Kishi vs Asterisk Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr2kJAGtrRo If you feel so strongly about your interpretation of a harem to be true, then I should see you on other shows on other threads campaigning for the harem genre tag to be added. You're quite dedicated to this one rather unsubstantial thing that you're willing to accuse others of "talking out of their ass" just because they disagree... |
| It's amazing how passionate some people can get over an anime they don't like. |
| Seriously, Naofumi could be less harsh towards his companions... they belong to that small group of people that actually like and support Shield Hero... :| Filo is a queen? Cool! A talented queen that is not afraid of various activities, let's add. Filo can fight, transform, move fast, pull the wagon. :) Aaand we had that classic "glare fight", characteristic for harem animes. Killuan said: It's amazing how passionate some people can get over an anime they don't like. Innit? It's even more amazing to see people ranting about one or two scenes that happened weeks ago in this or another anime, haha. |
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Adnash93 said: Seriously, Naofumi could be less harsh towards his companions... He is supposed to have trust issues now because he has been betrayed or shunned by everyone else in the story. As a bonus this solidifies his character as an anti-hero edgelord. |
| Been a while since I watched an anime that wasn't painful to watch. Sure it has it's tropes but it doesn't feel clammy. |
FreezePeach said: Filo is technically a monster, she is few days old and acts like a small kid QFT. We do tend to forget due to seeing her mostly in her loli form and being more used to shapeshifting humanoids that the bird form is still her true form and the human form is most likely a result of her camouflage ability that would normally be used to make her look like a normal filolial, but, since she's accompanied by (demi)humans now, the form she takes is adjusted accordingly as well. |
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Hmm hmm ... And yes, about Filo, she is not here as a love interest. We know we had a lot of Isekai where the hero have a harem ... But here it's not the case. Look at Slime Tensei where you have the two onis girls and stuff ... But here ? Just Raphtalia. |
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I just finish all 6 ep. At first ep. I thought Naofumi gonna be weak the whole anime, and this anime gonna be borning. But WOW I really like the anime and I like Naofumi's character now. He seems strong but still kind. Raphtalia & Filo is so cute. I can't wait to see what this time gonna do in the future. |
I love Firo-chan! I love how she transforms in to a fastass chicken and gobbles up someone else's lunch. She's adorable as a fat chicken and she looked so fucking pissed after she got a crest. She looks so fucking cute when she's pissed.  I loved the part where she sang while pulling that carriage. She loves that carriage so much, she earned it after smashing Spear Hero's vienna sausage. Her Fast Tornado and Raph's mirage was a great combination. Also, Naofumi is smart. I love this man. He exchanged the bandits' lives for their loot. He doesn't have to worry about getting some supplies for a while at least. He's really lucky, the first few people he met in this world were utter garbage but ever since he changed, he's been meeting all the right people like that accessory merchant. |
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malMaxi said: @VeryLTTP i don't think you can defend the notion that TnY is not a harem. As long s the show has at least two female characters fawning over a protagonist, we have a harem anime. This observation is also utterly and completely meaningless and tells exactly nothing about the story in question. By that metric, something like SAO and Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry are as much a harem as something like Negima, Asterisk or Mahouka. I definitely agree with your 2nd paragraph because the observation says very little about the story, though I will have to respectfully disagree with the 1st paragraph. However, I think I see where you're coming from in that some shows are more 'haremy' than others. |
| Well, I'm kind of indifferent about Filo. She is cute, but at the same time I don't really like her that much so far. I preferred when it was just Naofumi and Raphtalia, but I guess we'll need new characters in their party sooner or later. Raphtalia's jealousy was amusing. Though it's a bit weird knowing that a few episodes ago she was only a child. She clearly knows what she wants from Naofumi, and not just a father figure, but we'll see what they do with it. I'm pretty sure spear-guy took that cursed seed of course, the effect of which we will probably see next episode. |
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| Rewatched. Did like the rivalry between raph and filo |
| Naofumi is no fool...stupid bandits. And Filo kicks ass. |
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SSL443 said: Adnash93 said: Seriously, Naofumi could be less harsh towards his companions... He is supposed to have trust issues now because he has been betrayed or shunned by everyone else in the story. As a bonus this solidifies his character as an anti-hero edgelord. Yeah, I know, but still he should cherish the fact of having these few allies nearby. FreezePeach said: Adnash93 said: Or siblings' rivalry for parent's attention. Filo is technically a monster, she is few days old and acts like a small kid, there is no reason for Raphtalia to consider her a threat. Raphtalia herself is rather immature, nothing to see here.Aaand we had that classic "glare fight", characteristic for harem animes. Can be, but we can't be sure whether it's related to their rivalry as potentially Naofumi's girlfriend candidates, or just as siblings fighting for attention of the person they like and who is taking care of them. FreezePeach said: Anime is now using volume 2 material, by volume 14 nothing really changes. The are two more characters who kinda-but-not-really interested in Naofumi, but it is just a comic relief. The story is focused on adventures rather then romance. It's a good idea I think, there is no reason to hurry as long as people buy LNs. I haven't read LN nor manga, but it sounds rather not brightly. Adventures are awesome and they fit Shield Hero perfectly, but when it comes to having more and more adventures, then a show might suffer from a surfiet of it. Personally, I like when the story in anything (doesn't matter if it is an anime, a manga, a movie, a book etc.) simply evolves and is trying to moderately surprise its viewer without the feeling of a plot standing still in the same spot. As I said, I haven't read Shield Hero's manga nor LN, so I cannot judge whether there is a glut of Naofumi and his friends' adventures. |
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Adnash93 said: Yeah, I know, but still he should cherish the fact of having these few allies nearby. Yes, I agree. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he would still be brooding and bitter when he pretty much has entire towns ready to worship at his feet, not to mention the support of his companions and other influential allies. |
SSL443 said: Yes, I agree. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he would still be brooding and bitter when he pretty much has entire towns ready to worship at his feet, not to mention the support of his companions and other influential allies. Let's add to it the fact that Naofumi is not like i.e. Goblin Slayer who experienced way more bad things in his life, yet is able to slowly evolve as a friend and a member of society. Naofumi seems to stay in one spot all the time. I hope that later we will see a change in his behaviour as well. |
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SSL443 said: Adnash93 said: Yeah, I know, but still he should cherish the fact of having these few allies nearby. Yes, I agree. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that he would still be brooding and bitter when he pretty much has entire towns ready to worship at his feet, not to mention the support of his companions and other influential allies. I wouldn't call him bitter, not truly. He has never tried to hurt or intentionally be cruel to other people instead he puts up this 'bitter' facade to avoid emotionally getting hurt again. He still lets the goodness in his heart guides his actions and that should speak louder than his words. To me, that is the mark of a hero. |
veridiancity said: I wouldn't call him bitter, not truly. He has never tried to hurt or intentionally be cruel to other people instead he puts up this 'bitter' facade to avoid emotionally getting hurt again. He still lets the goodness in his heart guides his actions and that should speak louder than his words. To me, that is the mark of a hero. Bitterness in this case has nothing to do with trying to "hurt or intentionally be cruel to other people". Some definitions that apply to this situation: Angry, hurt, or resentful because of one's bad experiences or a sense of unjust treatment. Cynical and resentful. To be perpetually pissed off. |
SSL443 said: veridiancity said: I wouldn't call him bitter, not truly. He has never tried to hurt or intentionally be cruel to other people instead he puts up this 'bitter' facade to avoid emotionally getting hurt again. He still lets the goodness in his heart guides his actions and that should speak louder than his words. To me, that is the mark of a hero. Bitterness in this case has nothing to do with trying to "hurt or intentionally be cruel to other people". Some definitions that apply to this situation: Angry, hurt, or resentful because of one's bad experiences or a sense of unjust treatment. Cynical and resentful. To be perpetually pissed off. Then using your definition of bitter, he has every right to be. Please tell me how you'd have written him to be at this point. I'm interested to know. |
| Im almost caught up now and I think if the rest of the season is equally as good as it is so far it will be a 9/10 for me almost perfect! The story, characters, soundtracks its all amazing |
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| Filo is so adorable! Lol and her song about "kicking the spear guy in the balls". And Naofumi being a traveling trader is awesome |
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| Seems like Raphtalia is getting a bit jealous haha |
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Filo is such a cutie!!!!!!!!!! And they were able to get a gem to make her clothes? This is really nice. The clothes look good on her. Naofumi seems getting smarter with the trade business and he seemed to get a connection and skills to help him more. |
  โ โโโ ๐๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ค๐ข๐ฏ ๐ ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ข๐ค๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฎ๐บ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ต? ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ต ๐ช๐ต ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐บ ๐ฅ๐ข๐บ? |
| Lol... I thought it was just a meme but Raphtalia actually got daughter-zoned. That aside, this episode was better than the previous one. Naofumi ended up doing a lot of tasks but at least, it seems the help he received from that merchant might probably be very useful in the future. "We pray this seed never makes it out of here. It is a horribly twisted manifestation of our wish to for nobody to starve"... Motoyasu, don't tell me you... |
| Haha, Raphtalia had cool moments, such as when she dodged the snake attack and she covering her ears. In love with Filo bird form: she is SO fat and powerful. |
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| lmao Filo went Mortal Kombat on that monsters ass |
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| Raphtalia is getting a bit jealous of a kid ๐ |
| A lot of pretty amusing moments in this episode. It seems pretty comfortable with Filo dragging the wagon. Naofumis skill who increases the effect of medicine is also very helpful. The scene with these bandits was funny. Especially when they gave everything they had stolen to Naofumi because otherwise Filo would had eaten them :D Raphtalia is definitely jealous of Filo and she wants a little bit more attention. The fight against that chimera was nice even it was a little bit short. At least they got the stone for the magic cotton. Filo looked so cute in that dress. The dress maker was hilarious. I think the best thing for Naofumi was the fact this jeweller showed him so many things like gem refinement. With this and the medicine he should be able to make a good amount of money. |
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| Nice dodge by Raph when that snake tail attacked lol That old lady mage is p strong :} She was like level 39 or whatever haha Cute fit for Filo :D I like how our girls get jelly of the other over Nao lol. He's gotten so popular ;) That seamstress and her eyebags hahahah xD such dedication lmao |
| Very cute, one of my favorite episodes so far. |
"Wonder is always difficult until you forgive whoever destroyed your love of surprises" โ Edmond Manning  |
| Great episode, Filo's as cute as she is a useful member of the team! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Looting the bandits oof ๐คฃ๐คฃ Firo and Rap is so kawai also especially when harem with Naofumi |
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